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Civil 3D profile design: sample the existing ground, draw the finished grade and fill the data bands

What a road profile is and how to build a Civil 3D profile: sample the ground, create the view, draw the design grade with vertical curves, fill the bands.

  • Civil 3D course instructor – Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
  • 10 min read
A 461 m road profile built in Civil 3D: existing ground, a design grade with two vertical curves, and the elevation data bands below Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering

The plan shows where the road goes. The profile shows how it rises and falls: where it sits on fill, where it cuts, how steep each grade is. It is the drawing a checker opens first after the plan.

This article briefly explains what a profile is, then builds a Civil 3D profile in five steps. They are: sample the existing ground from the surface, create the profile view, draw the design grade with vertical curves, then put the design elevations into the data bands. The alignment is the 461 m route from Civil 3D alignment design.

What is a road profile

A profile is a vertical section along the centerline, unrolled flat. The horizontal axis is station, the vertical axis is elevation. Because the route is far longer than its relief, the vertical axis is usually exaggerated ten times so grades are visible.

A complete Civil 3D profile: existing ground, design grade, vertical curve labels and data bands Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Existing ground lineCurrent ground elevations along the centerline, sampled from the terrain surface
2Design profileThe finished centerline grade. Civil 3D draws it blue in the default style; Vietnamese practice calls it the red line
3Vertical curve labelsStation, elevation, K value and length of each curve
4Data bandsTwo rows of elevations, existing and design, at each station
5StationsDistance from the start of the alignment

Where the design line is above the ground the road is on fill, below it is in cut. Where the two lines cross there is neither.

The design profile is a series of straight grades meeting at PVIs. At each PVI a vertical curve smooths the change of grade. Going from a smaller to a steeper grade gives a sag curve; from steeper to smaller, a crest curve.

Preparation: alignment and terrain surface

A Civil 3D profile always belongs to an alignment and takes its elevations from a surface. You need both in the drawing:

The whole surface, alignment, profile chain makes up the first sessions of the Institute's online Civil 3D course.

Step 1: Sample the existing ground from the surface

Select the alignment. A contextual tab named after it appears. In the Launch Pad panel, click Surface Profile.

Surface Profile sits in the Launch Pad panel of the contextual Alignment tab Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Alignment: TUYEN CHINH tabContextual tab, visible only while the alignment is selected
2Surface ProfileOpens Create Profile from Surface
Create Profile from Surface: pick the alignment and surface, click Add, then draw the view Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1AlignmentThe alignment to profile. Stations 0+000.00 to 0+461.01 m fill in automatically
2Select surfacesSurfaces providing elevations. Several can be sampled at once, e.g. existing ground and a stripped-topsoil surface
3Add>>Adds the selected surface's profile to the list
4Profile listThe new profile. Update Mode reads Dynamic: edit the surface and the profile follows
5Draw in profile viewGo on to create the profile view

The sample existing ground profile has more than a hundred vertices. Each is where the centerline crosses an edge of a TIN triangle.

Step 2: Create the profile view

Click Draw in profile view and the Create Profile View wizard opens, with seven pages on the left. The two worth checking are Profile View Height and Data Bands.

Profile View Height: the view height is computed from the lowest and highest elevations Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1AutomaticThe view spans 18.91 m to 32.81 m, the lowest and highest ground along the route. Choose User specified to fix it, e.g. to give several profiles the same datum
Data Bands: the band set under the profile view Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Data BandsThe band settings page
2Select band setEG-FG Elevations and Stations: existing ground (EG), finished grade (FG) and stations
3Profile1, Profile2The profiles feeding the two elevation rows. With no design yet, both point to existing ground

Click Create Profile View, then pick an empty point in the drawing to place it, preferably clear of the plan.

The new profile view: elevation grid, existing ground line and a data band every 20 m Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering

Step 3: Set up the design profile

On the Home tab, Create Design panel, click the arrow next to Profile.

The Profile menu: Create Surface Profile samples existing ground, Profile Creation Tools draws the design Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Create Surface ProfileSame command as Surface Profile in step 1
2Profile Creation ToolsDraws the design profile. Run it, then pick the profile view
Create Profile - Draw New: name, style and label set of the design profile Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1NameDesign profile name, e.g. DUONG DO THIET KE
2Profile styleDesign Profile, the style for design lines
3Profile label setComplete Label Set labels grades, PVIs and vertical curve data
4OKOpens the Profile Layout Tools toolbar

Step 4: Draw the design grade with vertical curves

On the Profile Layout Tools toolbar, click the arrow next to the first button.

Set Curve Settings first, then Draw Tangents With Curves Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Draw Tangents With CurvesDraws grades and inserts a vertical curve at each PVI
2Curve Settings...Sets vertical curve type and length. Do this first
Vertical Curve Settings: crest and sag curve lengths Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Select curve typeParabolic, the usual vertical curve
2Crest curvesSet by Length or K value
3Sag curvesSet by Length or K value

The default length is 150 m. The sample grades are only 130–200 m long, so both are set to 50 m.

Choose Draw Tangents With Curves and pick the PVIs in turn. Clicking in the view is fastest; typing coordinates on the command line gives round numbers. The sample uses four points:

PointStationElevationGrade after
Start0+00019.50 m3.00%
PVI 10+20025.50 m3.46%
PVI 20+33030.00 m0.23%
End0+46130.30 m
Drawing the design profile: three typed points on the command line, the last grade following the cursor Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Design line in progressDashed blue line through the points entered so far
2Command lineThe typed points, and the prompt for the next one

Press Enter after the last point. Civil 3D inserts a sag curve at PVI 0+200 and a crest curve at PVI 0+330, with full labels.

Step 5: Put the design elevations into the data bands

The bands still show existing ground on both rows, because the view was created before the design existed. Select the profile view, click Profile View Properties, go to the Bands tab and scroll right to the Profile2 column.

Bands tab of Profile View Properties: set Profile2 to the design profile Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Bands tabThe view's data bands
2Profile2Choose DUONG DO THIET KE. The second row then shows design elevations

Click OK. The bands now carry both elevation rows, and the vertical curve labels give each curve's data.

Mid-route close-up: sag curve at 0+200, crest curve at 0+330, and the two-row elevation band Photo: Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering
No.ItemMeaning
1Sag curve at PVI 0+20050 m long, K = 108.33, low point at 24.75 m
2Crest curve at PVI 0+33050 m long, K = 15.47, high point at 30.06 m
3Data bandsTwo numbers per station: existing on top, design below

The bands give a first feel for quantities. At station 0+160 existing ground is 22.80 m and design 24.30 m, a 1.5 m fill. Around 0+350 the ground rises to nearly 32.8 m while the design sits near 30.05 m, a cut of almost 2.8 m.

Common mistakes with Civil 3D profiles

Typed points land in the wrong place. With the cursor inside the drawing, typed numbers go through Dynamic Input. From the second point on, it reads them as relative coordinates, so points fly out of the view. Move the cursor out of the drawing while typing, or prefix the coordinates with # in Dynamic Input.

Vertical curves will not insert. The 150 m default is longer than the grades. Lower it in Curve Settings before drawing.

Both band rows are identical. Profile2 still points to existing ground. Change it on the Bands tab as in step 5.

Stations labelled like 1+75.00. The default vertical curve label writes stations in 100 m stations, so 1+75.00 is 175 m, not 1,075 m. Edit that label style for consistent km+m notation.

The alignment changed but the profile did not. An existing-ground profile updates only if its Update Mode is Dynamic. Check it in Profile Properties.

Frequently asked questions

How does a profile differ from a cross section?

A profile runs along the centerline and shows elevations and grades from start to end. A cross section cuts across the centerline at a station and shows the road shape and side slopes there.

Why is the design profile blue in Civil 3D?

The Design Profile style sets the colour. Change it in the profile style, or reassign the layer, if your drawings require red.

How do I edit the design profile afterwards?

Select it and drag PVI grips to change station and elevation, or reopen Profile Layout Tools to insert or delete PVIs. Labels and bands follow.

What vertical exaggeration should I use?

The default profile view style exaggerates ten times. Change it in the profile view style, Graph tab, if you need another ratio.

The profile is the third link after contour lines and Civil 3D alignment design. Autodesk's own instructions are on creating a surface profile along an alignment.

Learn the full path from profiles to cross sections, corridors and earthwork in the Institute's online Civil 3D course.

About the author

Civil 3D course instructor – Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering — A transport infrastructure engineer building and coordinating models on road projects, teaching the Civil 3D course at the Institute