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Revit lighting fixture: ceiling lights, switches, circuits

Place a Revit lighting fixture step by step in the 2027 release: load the family, host lights on a linked ceiling, add switches and circuit them to a panel.

  • GV. Trần Ngọc Việt
  • 12 min read
Four downlights on the ceiling and a three-way switch, the dashed lines showing they belong to one switch system Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file linked to the Snowdon Towers architectural model by Autodesk

You open the ceiling plan, click Lighting Fixture, click where the light should go, and Revit complains about a host. Or the light lands on the floor instead of the ceiling. It happens because the ceiling lives in the linked architectural model while the light is looking for a different plane.

This article places a Revit lighting fixture in the 2027 release in the order that works: load the family, host the lights on the linked ceiling, add a switch, group the lights into a switch system, then circuit them back to a panel. To learn the whole electrical workflow on one sample building, see the Institute's Revit MEP course.

Which category lights belong to, and what you need first

Lights belong to the Lighting Fixtures category. Switches do not: they are Lighting Devices, placed with a different command. The two meet in a switch system, the record of which switch controls which lights.

Three things must exist before you place anything:

You needWhy
A reflected ceiling plan of the levelIt looks up at the ceiling, which is what you are laying out
A linked architectural model where the ceilings are visibleRecessed lights host on a ceiling face, and ceilings usually sit in the architectural file
Light and switch families loaded into the projectA company file often has no lighting family at all

The third one catches people out. Click Lighting Fixture in a file with no lighting family and Revit asks outright.

No lighting family in the project: Revit offers to load one, and Yes opens the load dialog Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Files to follow along, and where the families come from

The article on Revit MEP sample files shows how to take a copy of the Institute sample file and link the Snowdon Towers architectural model that ships in the Samples folder. It has a ceiling plan per level, which is all this article needs.

Light families come from Autodesk online content: Insert › Load from Library › Load Autodesk Family. Type downlight in the search box and a list appears, split between Lighting › Architectural › Internal and Lighting › MEP › Internal.

1 the search box, 2 the folder branches of the result, 3 the list of downlight families Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Autodesk online content

The two branches differ in what they are for. A revit downlight family from the MEP branch carries an electrical connector, so it can be circuited; the architectural one leans on geometry and the light source for rendering.

Wall lights answer to the keyword sconce, and switches to lighting switch, where you want the Lighting Switches family.

1 the sconce keyword, 2 the eight wall-light families in the online content Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Autodesk online content

Steps 1–4: open the ceiling plan and load the families

Step 1. In the Project Browser, open the Ceiling Plans view of the level you are working on. Set the view Discipline to Electrical so the electrical elements read more clearly over the architecture.

Step 2. Go to Systems › Electrical › Lighting Fixture. If the project has no lighting family, Revit offers to load one; answer No and load deliberately in the next two steps instead of pulling in something you will not use.

Step 3. Go to Insert › Load from Library › Load Autodesk Family, search downlight, tick one or two families and click Load.

Step 4. Repeat for sconce if you need wall lights, and for lighting switch to get the Lighting Switches family. Loaded families appear under Project Browser › Families › Lighting Fixtures and Lighting Devices.

Steps 5–8: place a revit ceiling light on a linked ceiling

Step 5. Call Systems › Electrical › Lighting Fixture again. The ribbon switches to the Modify | Place Fixture tab, which is where every Revit lighting fixture is placed from. Pick the type in the Type Selector.

Step 6. Look at the Placement panel. A face-based family offers three modes. Place on Vertical Face hosts on a vertical face such as a wall, Place on Face hosts on any face visible in the view, Place on Work Plane places against the work plane when there is no face to host on.

1 host on a vertical face, in the middle Place on Face is active, 2 host on the work plane Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Step 7. Keep Place on Face and hover over the ceiling. The status bar at the bottom names the linked model, which means the cursor has found the ceiling face inside the architectural file. Click to place the light, then click the remaining positions. Press the space bar while placing to rotate.

Step 8. Press Esc twice, select one of the lights and read the Properties palette. Host says what the light is attached to, Elevation from Level is its height above the level, and Schedule Level is the level it will be counted on in schedules.

1 family and type, 2 the Constraints group with Host and elevation, 3 the Electrical - Lighting group with Switch ID Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

This also answers the common question about ceiling lights: a light does not sit at the height you typed, it sits on the face it hosts on. Change the ceiling height in the architectural file and the light follows.

Steps 9–11: fix the voltage, then build the revit lighting circuit

Step 9. Select a light and click Edit Type. Autodesk light families are built for the American grid, so Ballast Voltage reads 120 V. Click Duplicate, name the type after your own standard, then set Ballast Voltage to 220 V, or whatever your grid uses. The same dialog holds Load Classification, Apparent Power and the two recessing dimensions.

1 the load classification of the light, 2 the default 120 V ballast voltage that has to change, 3 the apparent power used to total the load Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Autodesk online content

Skip this and the next step stalls: the panel list will be empty, because no distribution system in the project matches 120 V.

The Panel box offers only None: the voltage of the light matches no distribution system in the project Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Step 10. Select the lights that share a circuit: click the first, then hold Ctrl and click the rest. On the Modify | Lighting Fixtures tab, the Create Systems panel has two buttons: Power builds an electrical circuit, Switch builds a switch system.

1 the Power button that creates the lighting circuit, 2 the Switch button that creates the switch system Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Step 11. Click Power. The ribbon switches to the Electrical Circuits tab. Open the Panel box and pick the panel that feeds this circuit, an apartment board for instance. Connection Type reads Breaker.

With the light voltage fixed, the Panel box lists the panels that match the project grid Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file
1 Select Panel picks the panel by clicking it in the plan, 2 the Panel box now holds the panel, 3 the Breaker connection type Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Defining voltages, distribution systems and reading the load table of the panel is the subject of electrical panels in Revit.

Steps 12–15: switches and the revit switch system

Step 12. Go to Systems › Electrical › Device, click the arrow under the button and choose Lighting. This is the Lighting Devices category, not the Lighting Fixtures category of the lights themselves.

1 the Device button and its arrow, 2 the Lighting entry for light switches Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Step 13. Pick the switch type in the Type Selector, choose Place on Vertical Face on the Placement panel and click the wall. The switch hosts on the wall face, so it travels with the wall later.

Step 14. Select the lights that switch controls and click Create Systems › Switch. The ribbon switches to Modify | Switch System with three buttons: Edit Switch System to add or remove lights, Select Switch to nominate the switch, Disconnect Switch to drop it.

The three switch-system buttons, left to right: Edit Switch System, Select Switch, Disconnect Switch Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

Step 15. Click Select Switch, then click the switch you placed. Select any light in the group again and dashed lines appear, linking the lights to the switch: that is the switch system. The Switch ID parameter in the light's Properties records which switch controls it.

1 the selected light, 2 the three-way switch on the wall, 3 the dashed lines running from the lights to the switch Photo: Revit 2027 screenshot, Institute sample file

A switch system is independent of the circuit. The lights still need to sit in a Power circuit before their load reaches the panel; the switch only records the control relationship.

Wall lights and rooms with no ceiling

The three placement modes from step 6 are really three site situations.

SituationPlacement modeWatch out for
Recessed light, ceiling in the architectural filePlace on Face, click the ceilingThe status bar must name the linked model
Wall light or uplightPlace on Vertical Face, click the wallThe plan symbol of a wall light depends on the family
Plant room or basement with no ceilingPlace on Work PlaneSet the work plane at mounting height first

Autodesk's page on placing lighting fixtures adds one thing worth remembering: a light whose connector falls outside a space contributes nothing to that space's lighting data, and the cure is to enable the room calculation point in the family.

From CAD to Revit: light symbols and layouts

In AutoCAD you insert a block per light type, draw the line from light to switch by hand, and count the lights manually to build the schedule.

TaskAutoCADRevit
Light symbol in planA block in the drawing2D linework inside the family
Mounting heightA text noteThe light hosts on the ceiling; height comes from the host
Which light on which switchA line drawn by handSwitch system and the Switch ID parameter
Lighting loadAdded into a spreadsheetAdded to the panel through the circuit and load classification
Counting lightsBy handA Lighting Fixtures schedule

To match your company symbol, edit the 2D linework inside the family; that is the subject of lighting fixture families.

When the light will not host on the ceiling

SymptomCauseFix
Revit says it could not find a hostThe wrong placement mode, or no face where you clickedSwitch mode on the Placement panel, or click where a ceiling exists
The light sits at the wrong heightIt is hosted on a work plane, not on the ceilingSelect it and use Pick New on the Work Plane panel to point at the ceiling
Clicking Lighting Fixture asks to load a familyThe project has no lighting familyLoad one through Load Autodesk Family, then call the command again
The Panel box offers only NoneThe family voltage matches no distribution systemChange the Ballast Voltage of the type, or add a voltage definition
Lights vanish after the link is reloadedThe old ceiling was deleted, so the lights are orphanedSelect them and Pick New onto the new ceiling
No dashed line from the light to a switchThe light is in no switch systemSelect it, Create Systems › Switch, then Select Switch

Three things people often get wrong

What people sayWhat the 2027 release does
Switches are in the same category as lightsLights are Lighting Fixtures, switches are Lighting Devices, placed with two different commands
Linking a light to a switch creates a circuitA switch system only records control; the load reaches the panel through a Power circuit
A downloaded family is ready to useAutodesk library families carry 120 V and must be changed to match a 220 V grid

Frequently asked questions

Ceiling plan or floor plan for placing lights?

The ceiling plan. It looks up at the ceiling, so you see the face the light hosts on.

Why will the light not host on the linked ceiling?

Either the placement mode is not Place on Face, or there is no ceiling face where you clicked. Hover and read the status bar: it must name the linked model.

Where do I get a revit downlight family quickly?

Insert › Load from Library › Load Autodesk Family, search downlight. Check the voltage in Type Properties before circuiting it.

How does a switch system differ from a circuit?

A switch system records which switch controls which lights. The circuit is what carries the load to the panel and shows in the panel schedule.

Can I swap many lights to another type at once?

Yes. Select one, right-click and choose Select All Instances, then pick the new type in the Type Selector.

About the author

GV. Trần Ngọc Việt — Head of BIM Management at Thai Binh Investment Joint Stock Company; 17 years in MEP, BIM and project management; leads the BIM Manager course at the Institute of Information Technology in Civil Engineering